with guest – Ben Loven

What happens when you drop four pastors into a fantasy world where no one has ever heard of Jesus? Rory, Alex, and Anthony sit down with Roll for Joy’s Steward of Lore, Pastor Ben Loven, to talk about his actual play podcast The Lore of Jesus: Roll for Discipleship — where church council members get pulled through a portal, wrestle with a world that worships elemental “essences” (including one god of pure Umami), and stumble into the deepest questions of faith without ever naming the God they follow.

Ben shares how a table of pastors built discipleship into the dice itself, why “what even is worship?” became the campaign’s beating heart, how an unplanned surrender on a magical lighthouse rewrote an entire season’s ending, and the grief episode that sent him straight to a sleeve of Oreos afterward. Plus: a magic item called the Bad News Bears, a deep dive into everyone’s favorite stereotypical church characters, and a listener question about turning a gaming hobby into real ministry.

Season 2 of The Lore of Jesus: Roll for Discipleship is out now — new council members, same portal, same unanswerable question: how do you follow Jesus in a world that’s never heard his name?

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Hosts:
Rory Philstrom (popmn.org)
Alex Smith (www.peacelutheran.com)
Anthony Krones (www.thedailydungeonmaster.com)